Für alle, die wie ich versuchen Finnisch zu lernen und die Objektformen durcheinanderbringen, habe ich ein Fließdiagramm erstellt. Um die richtige Form für das Objekt eines Satzes zu finden, folgt einfach den Fragen von oben nach unten, und hoffentlich wird euch das zur richtigen Form bringen. Immer dran denken: Partitiv hat immer Vorrang, wenn es irgendeinen Grund gibt den Partitive zu verwenden, dann ist das auch die richtige Form.
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thanks for the chart
much appriciated
Ha! nothing is easy in Finnish – thanks for the chart!
just realized that your blog runs in german and english, can you tell me which plugin for wordpress you are using?
kiitos 🙂
It’s called WPGlobus – it’s very straightforward to use, and I think it’s quite good apart from the fact that I can’t place the button to swap language anywhere else than on the very bottom (although I think that’s actually the fault of the template, not the plugin)
thanks so much
will test it 🙂
Hi, great idea again to tell about the complexity of our language. By the way, as a Finn I’d rather say ‘I don’t eat apples’ – ‘En syö omenoita’ if it’s about apples in general. If it’s about the present then it could be ‘En syö omenaa vaan päärynää’ – ‘I’m not eating an apple, I’m eating a pear.’. If I’d be in a shop I would say ‘Otetaanko omenia/muutama omena/omenoita?’ – ‘Shall we take some apples?’ and so on. 😀
Thanks =) Yes, I thought that “I don’t eat apple” example was a bit weird, but I wanted to stick with the same sentence wherever possible – your suggestion would have been great, but apparently I didn’t think that far =)
Hey, great chart, but you say when the clause is täytyy, on pakko, pitää then it goes to nominitive, mutta mutta, Minun täytyy opiskella matematiikkaa ja minun pitää ajaa autoa. Onko?
Errmmm… no idea why that is =( Apparently partitive always has priority over nominative, but I don’t know why that applies in these cases…
Minun täytyy opiskella matematiikkaa. Minun pitää ajaa autoa.
Just follow the flowchart.
Is the clause negative or positive? positive
Is the object an indefined quantity or does it contain a numeral? No
Is the object part of a process that is not finished yet? Yes
The object is in partitive.
For the sake of comparison, consider also the following sentences.
Opiskelen itselleni ammatin. Minun täytyy opiskella itselleni ammatti.
Ajan auton korjaamolle. Minun pitää ajaa auto korjaamolle.